tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post179709165204935082..comments2023-11-02T05:48:48.115-04:00Comments on GayandRight: Europe goes crazy....GayandRighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08763498369390166108noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-24275922341467224232010-01-20T02:18:59.172-05:002010-01-20T02:18:59.172-05:00Hey mate. first I want to say awesome blog. I don’...Hey mate. first I want to say awesome blog. I don’t always agree with your opinions but it’s always a nice read. Keep up the good work. Sometimesyou must be similar in character will have suffering enough from the stern still ploughing and foaming through the press, take things calmly. This is what I’ve been looking for! Thank you so much for sharing this! I appreciate you as a customer for doing business with us... A customer is the most important visitor on our premises. Okay, go and signup on http://bit.ly/4zTwpz & give your valuable feedback on or http://limosbusesjets.com blogs.eLeonard Okothhttp://www.limosbusesjets.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-73438174373909417032010-01-19T13:53:56.692-05:002010-01-19T13:53:56.692-05:00I think this is fair. For someone who earns millio...I think this is fair. For someone who earns millions a fine of 500euro would mean nothing, it would be as if he could break the law freely. <br /><br />The penalty should affect everyone to the same point. And the point is different for everyone.LiPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-13543400935612880542010-01-15T20:08:06.369-05:002010-01-15T20:08:06.369-05:00Alright you have all convinced me that the ability...Alright you have all convinced me that the ability to pay more is a "fine" form of justice, lets just take this whole concept one step further.<br /><br />If it is not be equal penalty for everyone but to be of equal proportional deterrent to everyone. Then let all just transfer this to some other aspect of enforcement.... Oh I don't know... Prison Sentences shall we. <br /><br />The young offenders have a looooong life to live there fore they should automatically serve longer, old folks are near death already so they should get almost no jail time. Not fair that they would have to give up more of a percentage of their time on earth. We could even figure this out scientifically based on Insurance actuary tables.<br /><br />After all it is only fair and equitable...<br /><br /><br />How those jockeys fitting now?<br /><br />BTW G&R your word verification has a sense of humour. The word is retrial.The Grey Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269288653617838313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-59412939372498438662010-01-15T20:00:40.601-05:002010-01-15T20:00:40.601-05:00Rick: with generous benefits, many people who are...Rick: with generous benefits, many people who are unemployed can still drive...and they can certainly from time to time rent a car. <br /><br />Question: Do we really need to do a financial investigation of everybody who gets a speeding ticket?GayandRighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08763498369390166108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-36405389417336863942010-01-15T17:50:44.452-05:002010-01-15T17:50:44.452-05:00Hmmm...I'm considered by most of my friends an...Hmmm...I'm considered by most of my friends and acquaintances to be just slightly to the right of Attila the Hun, but I have to agree with Lucy here. <br /><br />A fine is meant to be a deterrent, while €200 will make me wince, it obviously will not have the same effect on...hmm..let's say the Prince of Lichtenstein (of course he has diplomatic immunity so is a bad example, but whatever).<br /><br />As for Gay and Right's claim that those who are unemployed can speed with impunity, nope not with the cost of cars in Europe, (about 50% more than in Canada) gas ( it was €1.35 a litre today, you do the math), also registration tax (about €300 in my case). Whith these costs most cannot afford to operate a car, let alone speed with it.Rick Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-29821452671720226962010-01-15T12:02:05.542-05:002010-01-15T12:02:05.542-05:00You know me too well Nemesis.
Calm down Grey Lady...You know me too well Nemesis.<br /><br />Calm down Grey Lady, dont get so excited especially if you plan to take the car out anytime soon and especially if you are in Europe. We have this great system of fining people who speed over here, you may of heard about it....Falling on a bruisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-51839019382746626272010-01-15T11:51:29.569-05:002010-01-15T11:51:29.569-05:00Maybe I can't fully defend myself on this, but...Maybe I can't fully defend myself on this, but I agree with the concept.<br /><br />Fines are supposed to be a punishment, aren't they? How is a two-hundred dollar fine a punishment for the wealthy? It isn't. At all. It's nothing. A minor inconvenience, the price of ignoring the law.<br /><br />As for "they'll lose their license," uh, probably not, and having someone drive you around until you get your license back is hardly a punishment.<br /><br />However, "<i>He was ordered to pay half of it in cash immediately with two years for the rest.</i>" Do the less-than-wealthy get this kind of allowance? If not, then providing a payment plan is an obvious indication that the fine was way too large.DoorHoldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-11117863549130382942010-01-14T23:32:08.103-05:002010-01-14T23:32:08.103-05:00Then stop bitching how life is unfair and get rich...Then stop bitching how life is unfair and get rich, work hard, marry it, buy a lottery ticket I could care less, but jealousy is ugly and your attitude makes roseanne bar a regular beauty queen in comparison.<br /><br />BTW why not take a look at what sucks about the justice system, why it isn't equal, why there is NO justice in this country and many other so called democracies,ya know that thing run by the state instead of gleeful cheering on of the fleecing of the most productive by the system.The Grey Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269288653617838313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-12085190964310703622010-01-14T22:37:32.104-05:002010-01-14T22:37:32.104-05:00Equal justice for all? Not if you're rich!Equal justice for all? Not if you're rich!Lucy's Nemesisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-79472160539769236322010-01-14T21:39:07.295-05:002010-01-14T21:39:07.295-05:00No cash cow is out of bounds for these thieving so...No cash cow is out of bounds for these thieving socialist governments. Why pay fines at all? Why not make a community service or jail penalty universal? It is just too tempting for cops to bust Lamborghini drivers who happen to break the speed limit and cash in. Heck, you might even earn some extra stripes back at the office that way. Sorry, guys, jealousy is not a pretense for distributing a warped socialist version of "justice." As long as a guy doesn't steal his fortune, then it is his to keep and none of our concern.Lemming Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10521167871804081025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-49748680390058215452010-01-14T20:49:15.964-05:002010-01-14T20:49:15.964-05:00OMFG folks......
The sheep bleat "it is fair...OMFG folks......<br /><br />The sheep bleat "it is fair, it is fair", "Rich can afford it, they should pay more". <br /><br />They already are paying more you silly dolts. <br /><br />I tell ya what, why don't we all just don our grey cotton sackcloth suits and wait in line for the hand outs that big brother deems we are entitled too and be done with the pretence of freedom and democracy already, the sheep are killing it one lockstep at a time thru jealousy and pure unmitigated stupidity, using the government to take revenge on those rat bastards that excel at making dirty, disgusting money.<br /><br />What the heck good, efficiency has a government EVER done with money, Face it they suck at it, have aways sucked at it, will always suck at it.<br /><br />Sheep are the scariest animals alive.<br /><br />.The Grey Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269288653617838313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-24175086855026572912010-01-14T19:22:39.654-05:002010-01-14T19:22:39.654-05:00No..pay a standard fine..if you are a repeat offen...No..pay a standard fine..if you are a repeat offender, then your driving license gets taken away.<br /><br />Making people pay on the basis of income would mean that unemployed people could just speed, period.GayandRighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08763498369390166108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-43383711198217209032010-01-14T18:27:40.621-05:002010-01-14T18:27:40.621-05:00I just knew Lucy would be a firm advocate of this ...I just knew Lucy would be a firm advocate of this unjust socialist money hating scheme of the Europeans.Lucy's Nemesisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-43451483828374254612010-01-14T17:49:48.764-05:002010-01-14T17:49:48.764-05:00My first reaction was the same as yours, but I soo...My first reaction was the same as yours, but I soon came to the conclusion that the judgment was the right one and the fine was appropriate.<br /><br />Break any law you like, but if you're caught, you should expect to pay a penalty that will make you think twice before you do it again.Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11578122.post-18978406894014405142010-01-14T17:21:48.791-05:002010-01-14T17:21:48.791-05:00It seems a fair system to me. If the standard fine...It seems a fair system to me. If the standard fine for speeding is (for example) £200, then it punishes a lower earner (could be 25% of monthly disposable income)more than a higher earner (could be 1% of monthly disposable income) so where is the incentive to stop them speeding? <br />If they know they will be fined proportionally to their income, then i have no problem with that whatsoever.Falling on a bruisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518409624331248084noreply@blogger.com