Indonesia wants to get paid...

And, why not....

Indonesia has struck out at developed countries for presenting "empty propaganda" during climate change negotiations in Bali and stalling proposals to pay to protect the world's forests.

The head of the Indonesian delegation, Emil Salim, launched the attack yesterday, when Indonesia released its proposal to reduce its emissions from forestry, which account for about 8 per cent of the world's greenhouse emissions.

"When it comes to the negotiating table here in Bali, they only come with promises," Mr Salim said. "When it comes to the negotiating table here in Bali, developed countries are stingy.

"Where are you?" Mr Salim asked of Australia, the United States and Britain.

Sources involved in the tense negotiations said that several developed countries were blocking moves to endorse the Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Degradation scheme.

Developed countries expressed concerns about the cost of the scheme, expected to run into billions of dollars - which would need to be funded by large emission-cut targets. They also questioned whether forest protection could be properly enforced and measured.

Some environmental groups have also attacked the concept, with Friends of the Earth saying it could be used by the West to avoid essential emissions cuts.

The scheme proposes a new "carbon credit" market, where countries such as Indonesia earn credits by preserving forests, which could be bought by richer nations to offset emissions targets.

Some developing nations were also blocking elements of a draft agreement that would not benefit them, officials said.

Indonesia is proposing to start pilot programs to reduce logging and burn-offs next year. It wants the scheme to be expanded worldwide and incorporated in the post-Kyoto agreement planned to be finalised in 2009.

Indonesia's Forestry Minister, Malam Kaban, yesterday said his country could expect "big payments" from the scheme, as much as $US10 billion ($11.48 billion).